i never expected linux desktop comment to gain so much traction, sort of surprising #x11 #wayland

the linux desktop has really evolved, they mostly all work, some are a bit more resource intensive and you get bells and whistles

#X11 #FOSS #linux #BSD

X.Org Server 26.1 RC1 Prepares For First Feature Release In Five Years - Phoronix
https://www.phoronix.com/news/X.Org-Server-26.1-RC1

XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release

https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg/2026-August/062280.html

Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49366474

#HackerNews #XWayland #XWayland26 #X11 #OpenSource #Software #Release #News

RE: https://cyberpunk.lol/@mxchara/117089892142944101

I like that one person voted for "graphics what are those." Anyway just about half a day left on the poll.

I find myself asking: is there a point to trying to start over from scratch here? As a project down the line, that is, not an immediate thing. The #X11 and #Wayland conflict points to the possibility of trying to use a relatively low-level and cross-platform graphics library, OpenGL perhaps, and try to come up with a fresh approach. (cont'd)

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Mx. Chara Aznable of Pnictogen [They/Them] » 🌐 2026-08-13
@mxchara@cyberpunk.lol

RE: https://cyberpunk.lol/@mxchara/117072168428690503

OK! After running this poll about X11 vs. Wayland vs. other application environments on #Linux or #BSD or other #UNIX type operating systems, let me ask...what TOOLKIT, what general-purpose widget set or GUI toolkit, is your preferred option:

GTK (Gnome, Xfce, LXDE, etc.):	5
Qt (KDE, LXQt, Lumina, etc.):	6
FLTK (flwm, slwm, EDE):	0
nothing specific (e.g like with twm):	3
graphics? what are those?:	0
what's a "toolkit" I just open apps and they work:	0
OTHER:	0

RE: https://cyberpunk.lol/@mxchara/117101641122516933

There's an easy explanation for why xwayland is semi-broken: hostile engineering. @bragefuglseth was trying to advertise for the @XOrgFoundation but they're responsible for BOTH #X11 and #Wayland, so if X11 back-compatibility with Wayland is defective, then they probably WANT it to be defective. This is typical #tech sector "planned obsolescence".

Because the geeklords are all salivating over the new thing and want it to be FORCED on people (so they can start profiting faster from the new thing) they make sure the old thing, which is still perfectly useful and in fact has a massive user-base, is sabotaged.

(cont'd)

RE: https://cyberpunk.lol/@mxchara/117072168428690503

OK! Only forty-four respondents but still enough to give me some general picture of the roughly even balance between #X11 and #Wayland and the relative slightness of other options. And I learned about #tmux for multiplexing console terminal sessions so that's good!

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Mx. Chara Aznable of Pnictogen [They/Them] » 🌐 2026-08-10
@mxchara@cyberpunk.lol

OK first #poll related to #UNIX / #Linux / #BSD desktop matters. Let's start with something more fundamental: what's your protocol?

X11:	3
Wayland:	3
text / console apps:	1
other graphical environment:	0
direct mental contact like Mr. Spock:	1
other:	0

Xfce: Zweite Vorschau auf Wayland-Compositor erschienen
https://linuxnews.de/xfce-zweite-vorschau-auf-wayland-compositor-erschienen/ #xfce #wayland #x11 #linux #linuxnews

RE: https://cyberpunk.lol/@mxchara/117072168428690503

Still at forty votes. Hoping for more because more #data is always better, right? That's what the genAI boys say!

Anyway it's interesting to see that #X11 and #Wayland are roughly par. I was hoping to learn about something brand new heh

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Mx. Chara Aznable of Pnictogen [They/Them] » 🌐 2026-08-10
@mxchara@cyberpunk.lol

OK first #poll related to #UNIX / #Linux / #BSD desktop matters. Let's start with something more fundamental: what's your protocol?

X11:	3
Wayland:	3
text / console apps:	1
other graphical environment:	0
direct mental contact like Mr. Spock:	1
other:	0

@samd

Crazy thought: On X11, you could totally do a gradually changing day-and-night bitmap wallpaper using a #1Bit xbm wallpaper and manually, gradually setting the foreground and background colors with a script throughout the day. Basically, 1-bit color with palette manipulation

With the right image, that would look pretty badass, IMHO.

#X11 #BSD

it's taken us too long to get back to this point: poking away at #X11 programming from Common #Lisp (cmucl in this case) using the CLX library. This image captured from our CachyOS Linux system running LXQt + labwc Wayland desktop environment.

But that brings up the question: we spent a couple years in college plugging away at learning X11 programming with the help of those massive O'Reilly books back in the 1990s. 1990s computer #programming books tended to be written to a far more literate standard than is usual in the tech sector of today (generative #AI fanboys probably hope to get away without even knowing how to read) so it was relatively painless despite the somewhat tedious nature of the X11 APIs.

So...does anything like this exist for #Wayland? Are there books that are any good? I'd like to know in particular whether it's at all possible to create non-rectangular windows.

Alt...

partial screenshot of LXQt desktop environment using the Wayland labwc compositor, with two terminal windows open and in between them a small X11 window showing a single line of white text on a black background, successfully created from cmucl Common Lisp using the CLX interface.

qemu-system-x86_64 \
    -machine q35 -enable-kvm \
    -m 2g -cpu host \
     -vga std \
    -drive "media=disk,if=virtio,file=$HOME/Downloads/9front-11952.amd64.qcow2"  \
    -netdev user,id=vioif0,hostfwd=tcp::5699-:22 \
    -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=vioif0 \
    -no-reboot \
    -daemonize

hjfs: fs is /dev/sd00/fs
init: starting /bin/rc
bind: #i: no frame buffer
rio: cannot open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: file does not exist: '/dev/draw'
init: rc exit status: rc 217: rio 326: display open
init: starting /bin/rc

Currently trying out the Cosmic desktop interface and I must say its pretty awesome so far. Doesn't get in your way, tiling works really well, and there's customization where you want it.

I miss the lightweight simplicity of LXDE, but the X.Org vs experimental Wayland debacle is just too much for me right now...

If I need to stick with Gnome, I'll at least try out Cosmic for a while
#de #cosmic #wayland #x11 #xorg

https://system76.com/cosmic

Ok, y'all, are there any actual, working, mature #Barrier-like #KVM solutions for #Wayland?

I've poked around, but just found a lot of what looks like beta and/or abandonware.

I'm looking for something that works between both Wayland and #X11.

Today I will be attempting to revert back to XFCE on Fedora. I've been running Gnome for some time now due to Wayland allowing me to make use of the touch screen on my T480, but I hardly use it and I miss something more lightweight.

To ensure the safe-ification of this exercise, I created my own little guide
#xfce #fedora #gnome #wayland #X11

Alt...

A markdown document detailing a list of steps to take to install XFCE alongside Gnome in Fedora. The steps detail emergency actions to take when I inevitable mess things up on my system

@thomasadam

Looks great, this could ease my force move to #wayland. But right now still on #X11 and will stay there as long as I can :)

#fvwm

🎉 Breaking news for all 3 people who needed a #GTK4 #SSH-askpass in Zig! 🚀 We've finally moved past the stone age of #X11, just to appease the ultra-niche, hardened #Gentoo laptop users who apparently have a lot of time on their hands. 🐢💻✨
https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-gtk4-ssh-askpass-in-zig/ #Zig #HackerNews #ngated

Your eyes deserve better after midnight!

🌙 **nightlightd** — A zero-config screen color temperature daemon for X11

💯 Automatically follows sunrise and sunset, survives suspend & won't accidentally run twice

🦀 Written in Rust & built with @ratatui_rs

⭐ GitHub: https://github.com/umutdinceryananer/nightlightd

#rustlang #ratatui #tui #linux #opensource #x11

Here we go! #X11 window manager poll for #UNIX / #BSD / #Linux type systems. If I've made a mistake in listing something that doesn't actually have X11 support, please let me know.

Lower latency in X11? Don't mind if I do !

I'm always hungry for lower latency...

#youtube: https://youtu.be/jdSfOd9IBJE
#twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/reallylazybear

#linuxgaming #osulazer #rhythmgame #rhythmgames #indie #arcade #action #osu #osugame #opensource #archlinux #cachyos #x11 #wayland #xwayland

I know of "don't fix what ain't broke" and "use what works for you". I'm well aware of it. I'm fine with both. I'm pretty adaptable, but maybe I'm just having fond memories with x11.

When I really thought about it though.. I don't even know why I switched to wayland, kde specifically. My i3wm still works flawlessly. While KDE has very teeny tiny problems, I still like it.

Y'know that feeling when you have two girlfriends who like you and are still friendly to each other even though you can only choose to spend time with one. That's what it feels. On one hand you got someone who's facing forward, looks to the future, who wants to bring the best out of you, and on the other hand, you got someone who's chill and she's chill whoever you pick, but the modern one is also chill when you pick the legacy one. Argh..

This is the problem of liking both.. I'm comfortable with both. I wanna spend time with both but I can only spend time with one...

#wayland #linux #x11 #freesoftware #opensource

Measuring Input Latency on Linux: X11 vs. Wayland, VRR, and DXVK

https://marco-nett.de/blog/measuring-input-latency-on-linux-x11-vs-wayland-vrr-dxvk/

Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48909424

#HackerNews #MeasuringInputLatency #Linux #X11 #Wayland #VRR #DXVK

Prepare for a riveting saga of #Linux #input #latency, where #X11 and #Wayland battle for supremacy 🏆, yet somehow everyone still uses Windows for #gaming anyway. The author bravely ventures into realms of VRR and #DXVK, only to realize that the true enemy is their own patience 😩. Meanwhile, the rest of us just want to play #Quake without summoning the tech gods. 🎮
https://marco-nett.de/blog/measuring-input-latency-on-linux-x11-vs-wayland-vrr-dxvk/ #HackerNews #ngated

🌗 Linux 系統輸入延遲測量：X11 與 Wayland、VRR 及 DXVK 的實測分析
➤ 透過實證數據，揭開 Linux 遊戲延遲優化的真相
✤ https://marco-nett.de/blog/measuring-input-latency-on-linux-x11-vs-wayland-vrr-dxvk/
針對 Linux 遊戲社羣中關於「Wayland 比 X11 延遲更高」以及各種優化參數是否有效的爭論，作者自行開發了一套硬體裝置進行實測。透過將光敏電阻安裝於螢幕，記錄滑鼠點擊與螢幕光度變化之間的「點擊至光子（Click-to-photon）」延遲，作者針對 Linux 上的顯示伺服器（X11 vs Wayland）、變動更新率（VRR）以及低延遲 DXVK 分支進行了科學化的數據分析。此研究旨在揭開 Linux 遊戲優化的神祕面紗，以數據驗證哪些設定真正能降低延遲，而非僅是依賴社羣流傳的安慰劑效應。
+ 這就是開源社羣的精神！與其在論壇上打嘴砲辯論，不如動手做硬體實驗，數據纔
#Linux 遊戲 #硬體測試 #延遲分析 #Wayland #X11 #DXVK

I finally published the CWM configuration I use on Slackware-current as a practical example of that approach.

The repository keeps CWM focused on window management, while sxhkd, small shell scripts, and shared .xinitrc components provide a portable desktop workflow that can be reused across different WMs.

Repository:
https://git.sr.ht/~r1w1s1/cwm-config

Background:
https://r1w1s1.srht.site/posts/window-manager-agnostic-workflows/

#OpenBSD #Slackware #Linux #X11 #cwm #Unix

#Mastodon tip: There is a way to use only part of a word as a hashtag!

For example, you might want to say the word “toots”, but use the hashtag “toot”.

To do this, place a U+2060 WORD JOINER before the “s” in “toots”. Example: #toot⁠s.

If you're using #X11 or #Wayland (i.e. #Linux or #BSD desktop), you can add the following line to ~/.XCompose to give yourself a keyboard shortcut:

<Multi_key> <w> <j> : "⁠" U2060 # WORD JOINER

Then just type Compose, then W, then J.

Mageia 10 hält 32-Bit-Unterstützung aufrecht
https://linuxnews.de/mageia-10-haelt-32-bit-unterstuetzung-aufrecht/ #mageia #mandrake #wayland #x11 #32bit #linux #linuxnews

Ausblick auf Plasma 6.8
https://linuxnews.de/ausblick-auf-plasma-6-8/ #kde #plasma #wayland #x11 #linux #linuxnews

RE: https://mastodon.social/@rustaceans/116755672316463652

yserver

― a modern X11 server written from scratch in Rust.

<https://github.com/joske/yserver>

"… there are multiple projects on GitHub with this name (but none for X11 servers), the name is subject to change. …"

<https://lobste.rs/s/yy8je0/yserver_modern_x11_server_written_from>

<https://www.phoronix.com/news/YSERVER-Rust-X11-Server>

"… can currently run a full MATE, Xfce, or Cinnamon X11 desktop. The prominent X11 extensions from RandR to DRI3, GLX, MIT-SHM, Composite, and others are supported. And, yes, with working Compiz goodness too:

… open-source under an MIT license. …"

<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48531394>

<https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1u31shc/comment/or1re0p/>

#AI #Linux #X11 #yserver #Rust

Bob Scheifler announces the first release of the X Window System:

"I stole a fair amount of code from W ... and called it X."

Forty-two years later, I'm still running X11 daily on Slackware.

Happy Birthday, X.

Source: https://www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml

#X11 #Unix #Linux #Slackware #XLibre

Per gli utenti che non vogliono abbandonare X11, SonicDE rappresenta una nuova alternativa basata sulle tecnologie KDE. Scopri caratteristiche, obiettivi e piattaforme supportate. #Linux #KDE #SonicDE #OpenSource #X11 #Wayland

https://www.linuxeasy.org/come-installare-sonicde-kde-plasma-x11/?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=jetpack_social

#YSERVER: Modern #X11 Server Written In #Rust With The Help Of Claude Code - #Phoronix

https://share.google/d7VGQnfQozqS3tX45

#Xorg #Unix #FOSS

🐡 OpenBSD 7.9 arrives, a diamond in the rough proud of every sharp edge

｢ It has its own X11 server, Xenocara, based on X.org 7.7 and Xserver 21.1.21, but you can also run XLibre with some manual effort, and some desktops support Wayland. There is also a downstream project to build a live bootable medium called FuguIta, although it hasn't caught up with the new release just yet ｣
https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/05/25/openbsd-79-arrives-a-diamond-in-the-rough-proud-of-every-sharp-edge/5244877

#openbsd #bsd #unix #x11

⚠️ PSA to Linux users who use X11 ⚠️

Are you using X11 and running into an issue where you can't open any applications? Discord might be the culprit.

The Linux build of Discord has a really obtuse bug that opens too many X11 clients, leading to 256 open clients limit being reached, therefore not being able to open any application. The number of client connections start small, but it slowly climbs up until it reaches the 256 limit, this suggest some sort of leak.

If you run into a situation where you can't open any application, closing Discord should fix the problem.

This is a really obtuse bug, so people don't get confused on why suddenly they can't open applications anymore, and maybe share this to anyone who report not being able to open any application on X11!

#reddit (for filters)

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/1tjni9v/psa_discord_spawns_too_many_x11_clients/

#discord #linux #xorg #x11